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the economy grew at 2.7% in the third quarter better than the figure announced. the dow was up 37. the s&p 500 gained six. nasdaq finished ahead 20. syrian rebels struck a major blow in the heart of the government today killing a top ruling of the party in a car bombing and someone is cutting off internet and cell phone communication in syria in certain areas. both sides pointing fingers at the others. all of this as decision-maker in washington try to make a decision on how involved the u.s. should be. we get the latest tonight from correspondent connor powell in jerusalem. hello, connor. >> forces loyal to bashar assad show a city of aleppo while rebels filed mortars at the damascus international airport causing damage to the runway to force several airlines to cancel their flight. >> the assad regime air superior over the syrian rebels appears to be disappea disappearing. in the past 24 hours they shut down two helicopters. rebels used the antiaircraft guns to shoot down the helicopters in the past. but now they have access to more shoulder-to-air missiles. >> we have shut down
the economy grew at 2.7% in the third quarter better than the figure announced. the dow was up 37. the s&p 500 gained six. nasdaq finished ahead 20. syrian rebels struck a major blow in the heart of the government today killing a top ruling of the party in a car bombing and someone is cutting off internet and cell phone communication in syria in certain areas. both sides pointing fingers at the others. all of this as decision-maker in washington try to make a decision on how involved the...
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. >>> as for the economy, it grew to 2.7 annual rate in the third quarter. and jobless claims fell by 23,000 last week, the second weekly decline since hurricane sandy. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." let's take making a deal here for all that at home who want to see republicans and democrats work together to avoid the fiscal cliff, we can bring you two lawmakers who are open to cutting a deal before the end of the year. with me are members from both sides of the aisle u.s. congressman lee tori, a republican from nebraska, and u.s. congressman jerry conley a democrat from nearby southern virginia. but first, i want to start with you. you told the omaha world herald this about republicans, we're screwed either way we have no leverage in these discussions. congressman, what did you mean by that? >> what i mean by that is that the president wants us to take a tax vote before he's willing to talk about anything else cutting or reforming, and republicans just aren't going to do that. so what he's d
. >>> as for the economy, it grew to 2.7 annual rate in the third quarter. and jobless claims fell by 23,000 last week, the second weekly decline since hurricane sandy. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." let's take making a deal here for all that at home who want to see republicans and democrats work together to avoid the fiscal cliff, we can bring you two lawmakers who are open to cutting a...
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well, the economy is worse now than it was then. frankly, if you look at the dynamic shift in demographics our entitlements are growing at a time when our working population is decreasing. the only answer to all these problems is sustained economic growth. it's the economy, stupid. megyn: what if the republicans say we agree, raise the taxes on the rich. and then what would happen? then what they would be debating about when that most likely didn't fix the problem, quick last word. >> it's a terrible position for the republicans to be in. their only negotiating coin right now. and to give in without doing something to figure out these entitlement program would be a disaster for the republican party. megyn: michael, thanks. coming up, a provocative column in the "wall street journal" on race in america. megyn: the teacher's union in buffalo, new york attracted national attention when we learned their contract benefits include coverage for taxpayer turned plastic surgeries. the issue came up again and trace gallagher picks up our stor
well, the economy is worse now than it was then. frankly, if you look at the dynamic shift in demographics our entitlements are growing at a time when our working population is decreasing. the only answer to all these problems is sustained economic growth. it's the economy, stupid. megyn: what if the republicans say we agree, raise the taxes on the rich. and then what would happen? then what they would be debating about when that most likely didn't fix the problem, quick last word. >>...
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and now to john boehner. >> -- sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today, i would say two things. first, despite claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. campaign style rallies and one-sided leaks in the press are nolts the way to get things done here in washington. majority leader and i just had a meeting with the treasury secretary. it was frank and it was direct. i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. we sought to find out today what the president really is willing to do. i remain hopeful that productive conversations can be had in the days ahead. but the white house has to get serious. yesterday our leadership t
and now to john boehner. >> -- sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today, i would say two things. first, despite claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on...
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jenna: now to the economy. investors are reacting to some new data we got today. the dow is slightly higher the commerce department is reporting that our economy grew at a pace of 2.7% in the july through september period. that is better than the initial estimate. we have numb another reading after this. this is not the final number. economists are seeing signs the meager growth we experienced last quarter may not be necessarily sustainable jon. jon: weekly jobless numbers are in and they are down. the labor department reporting number of americans trying to get unemployment benefits fell 23,000 to 393,000 last week, the second straight drop after superstorm sandy had driven applications much higher earlier in the month. the labor department is saying the storm had little impact on these numbers. jenna: still too high for many investors. even in this tough economy entrepreneurs are carving out a niche, if you will, some sort of innovation. in our spotlight on small business today we are checking out a business that makes granny pods. that is what they're calling t
jenna: now to the economy. investors are reacting to some new data we got today. the dow is slightly higher the commerce department is reporting that our economy grew at a pace of 2.7% in the july through september period. that is better than the initial estimate. we have numb another reading after this. this is not the final number. economists are seeing signs the meager growth we experienced last quarter may not be necessarily sustainable jon. jon: weekly jobless numbers are in and they are...
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economy expanded at an annual rate of 2.7%. and that's better than the original 2% even that was reported a couple of weeks ago and last week, there were 393,000 new claims for jobless benefits and down from the previous week, but you're still very close to the 400,000 per week mark and that's a sign of weakness, albeit, come of that clearly from the storm, that's still not a healthy vigorous rebound, is it? trading has begun this thursday morning. we're expecting the dow to go up 50, 60 points and that's in part because of the fiscal cliff debate and looks like the president won taxes now, promises of entitlement reform later and don't care about the debt. the market kind of likes that, because the money keeps flowing. in the first part of business, we're flat, i thought more than that, we're up 2, 10 points and going up from here, at least in the early going. now, we've got another big name that you know #, trying to help shareholders avoid higher taxes next year, it's disney and increased the cash dividend by 25% and paying
economy expanded at an annual rate of 2.7%. and that's better than the original 2% even that was reported a couple of weeks ago and last week, there were 393,000 new claims for jobless benefits and down from the previous week, but you're still very close to the 400,000 per week mark and that's a sign of weakness, albeit, come of that clearly from the storm, that's still not a healthy vigorous rebound, is it? trading has begun this thursday morning. we're expecting the dow to go up 50, 60 points...
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economy. i think consumers are where it's at. we just got to get over this fiscal cliff thing. >> jonathan capehart. >> i learned president morsi of egypt is fanatical about "planet of the apes." >> that is really all you need to know. jonathan, thank you so much. rana, steve, michael and everybody, thank you for watching today. if it's "way too early," it's "morning joe." chuck todd is next with "the daily rundown." >>> together again. mitt romney makes his way to the white house. it's not exactly the way he wanted to get there. but can something constructive come out of a private lunch between president obama and the man he defeated just three weeks ago? that's right. that was just three weeks ago. >>> also this morning, a deep dive into america's longest war. look into lessons learned and the sacrifices made by troops at one combat outpost. tell us about what's been accomplished and what's not in more than a decade of fighting. as the country wakes up obsessed with numbers and winners, for the lottery, that, we've got a very i
economy. i think consumers are where it's at. we just got to get over this fiscal cliff thing. >> jonathan capehart. >> i learned president morsi of egypt is fanatical about "planet of the apes." >> that is really all you need to know. jonathan, thank you so much. rana, steve, michael and everybody, thank you for watching today. if it's "way too early," it's "morning joe." chuck todd is next with "the daily rundown." >>>...
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about the economy. martha: it will be interesting to see what timothy geithner brings to these discussions today. we'll be reporting on it and you will be there on the hill. thank you very much. >> we'll look forward to it. thanks, martha. martha: all right. bill: there is a controversial vote set to take place today at the united nations and the u.s. is expected to vote against it. eric shawn's live at the u.n. eric, good morning to you, what is the vote about first of all and what's expected to happen? >> reporter: good morning, bill. the vote on the palestinians, a nonmember observer state. we expect to hear from palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas within the next hour. that vote coming after he turned president obama down flat. the u.s. does not want this vote. the palestinians made a move for it last year in the security council where we have a veto. there is no u.s. veto in the 193-member general assembly where it is expected to pass overwhelmingly later this afternoon. last year the pal
about the economy. martha: it will be interesting to see what timothy geithner brings to these discussions today. we'll be reporting on it and you will be there on the hill. thank you very much. >> we'll look forward to it. thanks, martha. martha: all right. bill: there is a controversial vote set to take place today at the united nations and the u.s. is expected to vote against it. eric shawn's live at the u.n. eric, good morning to you, what is the vote about first of all and what's...
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that helps our economy. home building and strong corporate profits, that also helped our economy. but here's the thing. when you dig deeper in the report, past that headline number of 2.7%, you know, it's not all it's cracked up to be. businesses built up bigger inventories of their products last quarter. that helps the economy now, but the thing is, it means next quarter these businesses may not buy as much. also, this increase in inventory may be because these products are just piling up and no one is buying them. also, corporate america isn't spending much on much else. computer and equipment purchases, they're down because they're not sure where the economy is headed. and consumers aren't spending as much as first estimated, either. so there's a little good, there's a little kind of bad in the report, carol. >> yeah. i was going to ask you, what does this all mean as far as the fiscal cliff goes, anything? >> reporter: you know this. the fiscal cliff is going to have a huge impact on the economy. in fact, a big european economic group this week dialed back its estimates for u.
that helps our economy. home building and strong corporate profits, that also helped our economy. but here's the thing. when you dig deeper in the report, past that headline number of 2.7%, you know, it's not all it's cracked up to be. businesses built up bigger inventories of their products last quarter. that helps the economy now, but the thing is, it means next quarter these businesses may not buy as much. also, this increase in inventory may be because these products are just piling up and...
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they weren't a damper on the economy. i think it fair that we go back to those rates. >> i understand not wanting to negotiate with yourselves but you have to negotiate with somebody. so -- yes or no -- would you settle for something lower than 36.9%? >> i don't want to say what my line would be. we have to make compromises. if the rates do come up whether they have to come up to precisely the way they were during the clinton administration it can be a subject for negotiation. >> for instance let me ask you specifically. would you favor support if you need to lowering the eligibility rate for medicare -- raising it rather. >> oh i don't think we should make changes to medicare. it's not responsible for the deficit and debts. neither is social security. you're right, medicare and social security have long-term fiscal challenges. they need to be dealt with. i don't agree with connect connecting those to the deficit and debt program not created by those programs. >> i want to switch gears. as a senior member of the house int
they weren't a damper on the economy. i think it fair that we go back to those rates. >> i understand not wanting to negotiate with yourselves but you have to negotiate with somebody. so -- yes or no -- would you settle for something lower than 36.9%? >> i don't want to say what my line would be. we have to make compromises. if the rates do come up whether they have to come up to precisely the way they were during the clinton administration it can be a subject for negotiation....
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the economy will sink. and it will be so bad and the public outrage will be so intense that republicans will have to come to their senses on this. i hope we don't have tho get there because if we do, a lot of people will be hurt. we already went through that in the fall of 2008. we let the republicans kick us over the cliff then. i don't want to see it happen again. when we examine back, we're going to be joined by steven sloan who is a senior tax reporter for politico with a lot more insights into what all of these different tax rates mean for middle class. and for the wealthiest of americans. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. >> wow! i've never seen anything like this. >> when disaster strikes sometimes the only way out is to look within. current tv digs deep into the extraordinary tales of heroism determination and escape. "trapped" experience the drama. back to back to back. >> hold on mates! >> catch the "trapped" premi
the economy will sink. and it will be so bad and the public outrage will be so intense that republicans will have to come to their senses on this. i hope we don't have tho get there because if we do, a lot of people will be hurt. we already went through that in the fall of 2008. we let the republicans kick us over the cliff then. i don't want to see it happen again. when we examine back, we're going to be joined by steven sloan who is a senior tax reporter for politico with a lot more insights...
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that will hurt the economy. when the economy is bad, less people travel commercially for leisure, less people send packages. it hurts us and again, razor thin profit margin, we need a good economy, we need the economy good overt long haul. it's good for business. >> gretchen: do you think they were actually listening to what you had to say? >> i think they were. >> gretchen: really? >> yeah. i think it was a good discussion because the business radio he said were talking about what the impact of going overt cliff would be and also with a it would be down the line. >> gretchen: but so much, nick, of what's been discussed in the press is only about increasing taxes. you just got done talking about the fact that a stool falls over unless you have the other legs there. did you get the sense in these insider talks that people are actually going to take on entitlement reform? >> i think behind the scenes talk, yes. right now there is a lot of public posturing going on and that, i think, i personally think that's a pro
that will hurt the economy. when the economy is bad, less people travel commercially for leisure, less people send packages. it hurts us and again, razor thin profit margin, we need a good economy, we need the economy good overt long haul. it's good for business. >> gretchen: do you think they were actually listening to what you had to say? >> i think they were. >> gretchen: really? >> yeah. i think it was a good discussion because the business radio he said were talking...
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>> the economy is getting a little better. cyber monday was a new record. the big et cyber monday on record. they are beginning to open up their wallets. they are saving their cash for years now spending. >> or using credit cards a lot. let's get to the companies. >> ups you know this one. the global package delivery company. there are several things you can do and they are hiring through december 8th. they have 55,000 seasonal jobs available. 525 million packages will be shipped between now and christmas. packaged loaders unloaders, 8.50 an hour. >> 55,000 jobs that's a lot. >> sterling jewelers. >> i love this one. mostly mall based jewelry companies. this is kay and jared. they own both chains. they have full-time positions across the nation. they have 1300 plus more across the country. you don't flooefd why yous jewelry experience. they will train you about cut and clarity and color the size and different shapes. they will train you and put you into the store the. >> is it an hourly salary? >> it is a base salary but you also do get commission. these jo
>> the economy is getting a little better. cyber monday was a new record. the big et cyber monday on record. they are beginning to open up their wallets. they are saving their cash for years now spending. >> or using credit cards a lot. let's get to the companies. >> ups you know this one. the global package delivery company. there are several things you can do and they are hiring through december 8th. they have 55,000 seasonal jobs available. 525 million packages will be...
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i think it's bad for the economy, bad for job creation. ultimately by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the president need to come to the table with real entitlement reform. having said that, if we agree that taxes shouldn't go up on 98% of the people? shouldn't we take that now, set that aside, and i think we'll win the argument on the other areas. putting people at risk when we agree taxes shouldn't go up is something that we shouldn't do. >> speaker boehner said they need to stick to their position and freeze tax rates. i guess they believe that if you do what you are suggesting, you lose a lot of leverage at far as entitlement cuts and other spending cuts are concerned. how do you respond to that? >> i respect that but i don't agree with it. you don't use the american people as a hostage in a negotiating-type situation. i think at the end, this is the r rev ladies and gentlemen for the democrats not the republicans in this. my advice was given privately. i was asked what i thought. my position hasn't changed so i'm happy to tal
i think it's bad for the economy, bad for job creation. ultimately by slowing down growth cuts revenue. i think the president need to come to the table with real entitlement reform. having said that, if we agree that taxes shouldn't go up on 98% of the people? shouldn't we take that now, set that aside, and i think we'll win the argument on the other areas. putting people at risk when we agree taxes shouldn't go up is something that we shouldn't do. >> speaker boehner said they need to...
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our economy is consumer driven. the more consumers that more money, the better it is for small businesses like me. this puts $2,000 to $3,000 in the hands of regular, ordinary working people who will spend it. the lower taxes on the rich just sends more money outside of our community, outside of our country to make bankers in the cayman islands happy. i am happy to see the president ask regular legislators to contact their legislators. >> do you think the president is trying to make this thing happen? >> i really got the feeling that they understood the stakes here. while they really wanted to hear from us, what they heard from the dozen small business people in the room who represented about 150,000 in our various progressive small business organizations was don't raise taxes on the middle class, tax the rich more. there were even calls in that room for higher minimum wages. clearly, no one wants to cut out the safety net that working people are promised for their lives of diligence, using their brains and brawn to
our economy is consumer driven. the more consumers that more money, the better it is for small businesses like me. this puts $2,000 to $3,000 in the hands of regular, ordinary working people who will spend it. the lower taxes on the rich just sends more money outside of our community, outside of our country to make bankers in the cayman islands happy. i am happy to see the president ask regular legislators to contact their legislators. >> do you think the president is trying to make this...
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it will eventually cost us jobs and eventually slow the economy. that's going to cost us revenue as well. i don't agree with the president on that point. frankly, i think he needs to be a lot more specific about putting spending cuts and entitlement reform on the table. having said that, though, if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people and make them permanent, that's a point we should agree on, do that, and continue to fight for the things we believe in, simply because we accept that part of his offer doesn't mean we have to agree with the rest. but what i think a lot of people forget is, look, these tax rates are going up automatically unless congress acts. i favor acting to save as many of them as possible. >> makes sense. here's today, the speaker of the house john boehner signaled you out for your remarks on the compromise. let's listen to what you he said about you, sir. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. you're not going to grow the economy if you rais
it will eventually cost us jobs and eventually slow the economy. that's going to cost us revenue as well. i don't agree with the president on that point. frankly, i think he needs to be a lot more specific about putting spending cuts and entitlement reform on the table. having said that, though, if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people and make them permanent, that's a point we should agree on, do that, and continue to fight for the things we...
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i think he ran the campaign on a very narrow basis, by deflecting everything back to the economy. that's what he did in the primary and that's what he said he was going to do from the beginning. he just executed a plan that didn't work. the very people criticizing him were the people supporting him saying he was going to win. >> we just talked to senator john cornyn, he said he's pessimistic that they will get a deal. >> my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000, we should take them out of this discussion right now, and continue to fight against any rate increases and continue to work honestly for a better deal. >> that's what the president wants, extend them for everyone under $250,000. i'm curious what you think. do you think that someone like cornyn, someone like boehner is the right leader for the party, or someone more like what cole is saying? >> there is a strategy to putting together a deal and that goes for, in washington, d.c. or, you know, in your private life. and that is you don't give the other side everything th
i think he ran the campaign on a very narrow basis, by deflecting everything back to the economy. that's what he did in the primary and that's what he said he was going to do from the beginning. he just executed a plan that didn't work. the very people criticizing him were the people supporting him saying he was going to win. >> we just talked to senator john cornyn, he said he's pessimistic that they will get a deal. >> my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on...
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this is about returning confidence to the economy. >> greta: a plan to rev up the economy or a plan for spending cuts? >> a plan for reducing the deficit which actually would return certainty to the economy, restore confidence, which would help economic growth. punishing success will not do that. temporary tax increases don't do that as well. >> greta: it's interesting, almost seems like a game of chicken to see who's going to blink first. i listen to what you say, and i understand it, i understand the broad principles, but i don't have the nuts and bolts of it. and i hear the president say he's ready, willing and excited to have bipartisanship, but i don't know what his plan is either. >> again, his budgets, four budgets, yet to propose a solution to save social security or medicare. can't even get democrats or house senators to vote for his plan. we haven't seen his plan. that's a real tragedy. the president, it's incumbent on him. he won, time for him to govern, show the american people his balanced plan. he talked about it all the time. we know where he wants to increase revenue. he
this is about returning confidence to the economy. >> greta: a plan to rev up the economy or a plan for spending cuts? >> a plan for reducing the deficit which actually would return certainty to the economy, restore confidence, which would help economic growth. punishing success will not do that. temporary tax increases don't do that as well. >> greta: it's interesting, almost seems like a game of chicken to see who's going to blink first. i listen to what you say, and i...
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it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. it's why it's not the right approach. >> now, you can agree or disagree with that position. however, keeping them honest, house speaker john boehner and other top republicans trying to justify it in part by playing down the fact that president obama and democrats got a significant boost from voters. >> in politics, there is always a temptation among those who win office to think they have a mandate to do what they will. >> i don't think so because they also re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intended or not, we've got a divided government. >> the american people have also made clear there is no mandate for raising tax rates. >> keeping them honest, president obama campaigned and won on letting taxes go up for the top earners, so his victory throws a little cold water on that claim. democrats gained seats in the senate and the house and recent cnn/rnc polling shows more than 2 in 3 support tax hikes for the wealthy. u.s. a reality that republicans will grapple with fro
it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. it's why it's not the right approach. >> now, you can agree or disagree with that position. however, keeping them honest, house speaker john boehner and other top republicans trying to justify it in part by playing down the fact that president obama and democrats got a significant boost from voters. >> in politics, there is always a temptation among those who win office to think they have a mandate to do what they will. >> i...
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lou: he did gain control of let's sixth of the economy with the obamacare committed to? i mean, he did pass some subset of regulation of our financial industry in this country. you're not exactly easg concerns, hearts are worried about what the republicans are going to be able to do. by te way, i want to make it very clear. a personho supports entirely the idea of low taxes and maintaining that posture and certainly ing so energetically if there is no quid pro quo, significant order in spending. but what in the world by these folks to do on capitol hill? >> here is my argument. the first thing the republicans need to do is insist that the negotiations be in front of c-span so that the american people can see what obama is and is not doing until that happens, obaa can keep misrepresenting what is going on. second, they need to say %-to be on line for even dayseds said that the american people can read it. we have those two things, the chances of being completely jammed is a greatly educed, not down to zero, but let's get c-span cameras there. lou: i think your condition w
lou: he did gain control of let's sixth of the economy with the obamacare committed to? i mean, he did pass some subset of regulation of our financial industry in this country. you're not exactly easg concerns, hearts are worried about what the republicans are going to be able to do. by te way, i want to make it very clear. a personho supports entirely the idea of low taxes and maintaining that posture and certainly ing so energetically if there is no quid pro quo, significant order in...
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really happening to the global economy with. global financial headlines kaiser reports. it was not. a huge contract. it was not the operation to secure. a. contract. it was the campaign for making billions of dollars for. forty. eight billion dollars. for two years. more news today. these are the images being from the streets of canada. in china. today. well go back to that i slow liberal rumble joining me again neil mccabe and horace cooper let's get back to it first of all a number of republicans talk about grover norquist number of probably going to come forward in recent days to disavow grover norquist pledge to never raise taxes public and senator bob corker republican senator lindsey graham saxby chambliss yes a republican representative tom cole called on his fellow republicans to take the president's deal and extend the tax cuts for ninety eight percent of americans letting them expire for the top two for two percent so neil you had breakfast today with grover norquist who's a small kid i have i have a little test kid here to measure whether you've been poisoned or not but y
really happening to the global economy with. global financial headlines kaiser reports. it was not. a huge contract. it was not the operation to secure. a. contract. it was the campaign for making billions of dollars for. forty. eight billion dollars. for two years. more news today. these are the images being from the streets of canada. in china. today. well go back to that i slow liberal rumble joining me again neil mccabe and horace cooper let's get back to it first of all a number of...
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that is how you get the economy to grow. we'll have less economic growth. >> if all the republicans hold firm to that position you just spelled out and significant detail. there is not going to be a deal between now and december 31st and all americans they are all going to see their tax rates going up starting january 31st. how are you going to feel about that? >> the president came forward and said when you have slow growth, less than 2% now, why would raising taxes now be a good idea? it is still a bad idea and i think while i think there is room for a prom promise, i don't think one person gets to decide where the compromise is. he ran on this notion of raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. he is probably going to hold firm on that. we'll see what happens over the next four weeks. as long as we are spending money on robots, don't raise any taxes. thank you very much. >> less us know what you think. follow us on twitter. up next, another twist in the administration's attempt to explain what happened the night four ame
that is how you get the economy to grow. we'll have less economic growth. >> if all the republicans hold firm to that position you just spelled out and significant detail. there is not going to be a deal between now and december 31st and all americans they are all going to see their tax rates going up starting january 31st. how are you going to feel about that? >> the president came forward and said when you have slow growth, less than 2% now, why would raising taxes now be a good...
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what else do not feds see in the economy, peter. empleghts overall the feds saw the economy growing at a measured pace in recent weeks but it said that some business context said that they were worried about uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most places and with the holidays coming up. it said that the outlook for retail sales was mostly upbeat. shep? >> shepard: what's with the sirens? is the place on fire? >> no. there is escort going out here from the white house. >> you don't have much clout there. >> the vice president apparently is leaving. >> shepard: he might as well. what will the fed do with today's report? it has a meeting in a couple of weeks, you know. >> this was okay report. more importantly it was not strong enough for the fed to back off stimulus programs keeping intere
what else do not feds see in the economy, peter. empleghts overall the feds saw the economy growing at a measured pace in recent weeks but it said that some business context said that they were worried about uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most...
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the goal here is to grow the economy and control spending. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> so, joy, boehner is not exactly ready to go along with the american people, it seems. >> i think what you just saw there, rev, was a man waiting for bated breath on january 3rd, hoping that every day gets shorter and shorter and shorter as long as we're still in the lame duck congress and tea party members are still there. i think john boehner still has an ounce of fear that he will lose that vote. so he's always watching his right flank. i think boehner will be in a stronger position if we get to january 3rd and there isn't a deal and he can force a deal on his tea party members but this is a guy who still has to message to the right. this deal would have to be made by the congress that just lost the election, the congress headed by the tea party. and it's iron ironic that it lost the election but boehner has to cling to it
the goal here is to grow the economy and control spending. you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> so, joy, boehner is not exactly ready to go along with the american people, it seems. >> i think what you just saw there, rev, was a man waiting for bated breath on january 3rd, hoping that every day gets shorter and shorter and shorter as long as we're still in...
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in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and a new survey shows the president has the public on board in a new washington post poll, 60% support raising taxes on incomes over $250,000. a healthy majority. indeed, even some republicans appear to be under sway, by the force of reason. >> in my view, we all agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. continue to fight against any rate increases. try to continue to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> oklah
in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's...
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we agree it's about jobs and the economy. that's what the president said after the election that he wanted it to be his goal and his priority. we have a difference of opinion about how to get the economy growing again and expanding again. and obviously we have a big interest in making sure that we address the fundamental problem and driver of federal deficits and debt. and that's reforming these entitlement programs that are on an unsustainable path right now. >> so but remember the president also said when he extended the 35% tax rate for the upper income for those making more than $250,000 a year, he says -- he said then that was the last time he was going to do it. it was a one-shot deal. he wasn't going to do it anymore. and as you know he ran his re-election campaign on the notion he was going to increase the tax rates from 35% to 39.6% for those people making more than $250,000 a year. you think he's likely to blink on that? >> you know, i don't know. i hope he is at least willing to work with republicans. republicans a
we agree it's about jobs and the economy. that's what the president said after the election that he wanted it to be his goal and his priority. we have a difference of opinion about how to get the economy growing again and expanding again. and obviously we have a big interest in making sure that we address the fundamental problem and driver of federal deficits and debt. and that's reforming these entitlement programs that are on an unsustainable path right now. >> so but remember the...
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and for those families and it would be bad for the world economy. it is very important to get that resolved and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit and provide the kind of certainty that businesses and consumers need so we can keep this recovery going. obviously, we will be spending some time talking about national security issues. i want to say thank you to this extraordinary cabinet for a job well done and i take this opportunity to publicly embarrass two members whose birthdays are either today or tomorrow, rich, happy birthday to you, rich. that is tale today. and janet napolitano's birthday is tomorrow. guys, thank you. we want to get back to work. thank you, guys. could not be prouder of the job that susan rice has done. >>shepard: very rare for the president to take a question and actually answer it at the end of one of those. you heard him say in the past it would be a precedent to answer a question now because that would make people scream at me all the time with questions. he must have used this question as
and for those families and it would be bad for the world economy. it is very important to get that resolved and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit and provide the kind of certainty that businesses and consumers need so we can keep this recovery going. obviously, we will be spending some time talking about national security issues. i want to say thank you to this extraordinary cabinet for a job well done and i take this opportunity to publicly embarrass two...
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it would be bad for the economy and those families. in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so, i think it's very important that we get that resolved and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit and provide the kind of certainty that businesses and consumers need that we can keep this recovery going. and obviously, we'll be spending sometime talking about national security issues, as well. but i just want to say thank you to this extraordinary cabinet for a job well done and i will take this opportunity to publicly embarrass two members of the cabinet whose birthdays are today or tomorrow. rich consecki, happy birthday to you. that is actually today. and janet napolitano's birthday is tomorrow. all right, guys. thank you. we want to get back to work. >> mr. president -- >> thank you, so much, guys. susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done. all right. >> that was the president praising his current cabinet, also a little compliment to susan rice there at the end. straight ahead, we have more politics. the man behind
it would be bad for the economy and those families. in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so, i think it's very important that we get that resolved and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit and provide the kind of certainty that businesses and consumers need that we can keep this recovery going. and obviously, we'll be spending sometime talking about national security issues, as well. but i just want to say thank you to this extraordinary cabinet for...
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you won't grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. >> so let's bring in the political panel on this topic for today. erin mcpike back with us and david goodfriend, democratic strategist and contributor. thank you for sticking around. let's bring in the element of tom cole, a republican of oklahoma. doesn't get more red than oklahoma. let's play what he said regarding support and passing the middle class tax cut. >> in my view, we all agree we won't raise taxes on people making less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now. >> what is the issue with that? >> well, what congressman cole has really shown is that there's an imminent amount of good logic and sense in preserving the current tax rates for 98% of americans for a lot of reasons. one of which is the gdp dependent on consumer spending. 0% of the economy is consumer spending. if you take $2,000 on average out of pockets of consumers, it's going to hurt the economy so right away you have a low tax good eco
you won't grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses, hurt our economy. >> so let's bring in the political panel on this topic for today. erin mcpike back with us and david goodfriend, democratic strategist and contributor. thank you for sticking around. let's bring in the element of tom cole, a republican of oklahoma. doesn't get more red than oklahoma. let's play what he said regarding support and passing the middle class tax cut....
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and to strengthen this economy. we should take action before the end of the year and we should make some decisions and we should set ourselves on the path to serious deficit reduction. and we can do that. we need to just be able to work together to make that happen. >> congresswoman allyson schwartz, thank you very much. >>> coming up next, susan rice, once again, comes face to face with several republicans, and one senator in particular said she would make a better politician than a diplomat. >>> the economy, not great, but americans are still buying up their powerball tickets. why? because it is the biggest powerball jackpot in history and it just got bigger. let's say you want to get ahead in your career. how do you get from here... to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. ln fact, by thinking about where want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might find the best route... leads somewhere you weren't even looking. let'
and to strengthen this economy. we should take action before the end of the year and we should make some decisions and we should set ourselves on the path to serious deficit reduction. and we can do that. we need to just be able to work together to make that happen. >> congresswoman allyson schwartz, thank you very much. >>> coming up next, susan rice, once again, comes face to face with several republicans, and one senator in particular said she would make a better politician...
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it could be the spark that says even the biggest economy in the world can't govern its own country any longer when it comes to debt. what hope is there? and then who knows where it goes. >> now, your proposal, the group of you, says you can't cut your way out, we can't tax our way out, we can't grow our way out. it's basically pointing to that pie chart that shows that it all has to be a combination of all three measures. >> correct. >> for it to be a $4 trillion deal that you think is credible, you and other ceos, does this have to be something that -- it's obviously not going to get passed by december 31st, but it has to be something with triggers with credible enforcement mechanisms going forward. is that a fair read? >> correct. i would say the first thing is to avoid the fiscal cliff and i include the debt ceiling as part of that definition. the second piece of it is to put in place a $4 trillion plan that markets can count on that says okay, july 4th we'll say, if you want financial independence day, that july 4th it would happen and if it doesn't, there's some kind of fall back
it could be the spark that says even the biggest economy in the world can't govern its own country any longer when it comes to debt. what hope is there? and then who knows where it goes. >> now, your proposal, the group of you, says you can't cut your way out, we can't tax our way out, we can't grow our way out. it's basically pointing to that pie chart that shows that it all has to be a combination of all three measures. >> correct. >> for it to be a $4 trillion deal that you...
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just 34% think the economy will be stronger. that pop comes as one of the writers at "forbes" magazine identified a phenomenon called the death spiral states. these are 11 states where private sector workers are outnumbered by people dependent on the government. if you plan on buying a home or investing your money there you may be putting your hard-earned dollars at significant risk. melissa francis. you love it. >> reporter: i never get tired of hearing you say this. megyn: i noticed one of the states is new york. >> reporter: absolutely. there are two factors that put a state on the death spiral list which i like because it's very dramatic. one is one of the things you are talking about, the ratio of takers versus makers in the state. "forbes" isn't trying to be mean. what they are talking about is people who receive a check from the state so they could be state workers, welfare recipients or pensioners versus those who send a check into the state because they work in private sector. they made that ratio. for example, in calif
just 34% think the economy will be stronger. that pop comes as one of the writers at "forbes" magazine identified a phenomenon called the death spiral states. these are 11 states where private sector workers are outnumbered by people dependent on the government. if you plan on buying a home or investing your money there you may be putting your hard-earned dollars at significant risk. melissa francis. you love it. >> reporter: i never get tired of hearing you say this. megyn: i...
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you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses and hurt our economy. >> joining me now from washington, d.c., the democratic senator from washington, patty murray, a member of the senate budget committee. it is great to have you on the program. >> well, thank you, alex. nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut proposal and the norquist pledge will no longer keep republicans boxed in and unable to compromise. which would seem to be good news for republicans. what do you make of john boehner's statement saying bad idea? >> well, first of all, i respect represe
you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses and hurt our economy. >> joining me now from washington, d.c., the democratic senator from washington, patty murray, a member of the senate budget committee. it is great to have you on the program. >> well, thank you, alex. nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among...
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and if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. it's going to be much more difficult for us to balance our budgets and deal with our deficits because if the economy's not strong, that means more money's going out and things like unemployment insurance and less money is coming in in terms of tax receipts and it just actually makes our deficit worse. so we really need to get this right. i can only do it with the help of the american people. so tweet -- what was that again? my2k or e-mail, post it on a member of congress' facebook wall. do what it takes to communicate a sense of urgency. we don't have a lot of time. we have a few weeks to get this done. we could get it done tomorrow. now, optimistically i don't think we're going to get it done tomorrow. but i tell you, if everybody here goes out of their way to make their voices heard and spread the word to your friends and family and co-workers and neighbs, i am confident that we will get it done and we will put america on the right track, not just for next year but for many years to
and if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. it's going to be much more difficult for us to balance our budgets and deal with our deficits because if the economy's not strong, that means more money's going out and things like unemployment insurance and less money is coming in in terms of tax receipts and it just actually makes our deficit worse. so we really need to get this right. i can only do it with the help of the american people. so tweet -- what was that again? my2k or...
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i think it's a disaster for our economy. i think it's a disaster for our demonstration of our ability to govern, and i think it's a disaster for our standing in the world. we need to show that we can govern ourselves and we can put ourselves on a sound fiscal path with the right combination of growth, frugality and ensuring a safety net to the most vulnerable of our citizens. so i am here to say to my colleagues from both sides of the aisle, both sides of the dome and even the white house, let's get the job done. mr. president, i propose let's really conscientiously work hard to make sure that we have a framework that we could vote on, mr. president, by the weekend of december 16. why do i want december 16 as a deadline? it's saturday. you yourself have tweeted about oh, let's have saturday as small business week. we have had cyber mondays. let's have a strong economy closing of the week before christmas. i can tell you, mr. president -- mr. president, i'm find it -- i really can't -- the presiding officer: the senator will
i think it's a disaster for our economy. i think it's a disaster for our demonstration of our ability to govern, and i think it's a disaster for our standing in the world. we need to show that we can govern ourselves and we can put ourselves on a sound fiscal path with the right combination of growth, frugality and ensuring a safety net to the most vulnerable of our citizens. so i am here to say to my colleagues from both sides of the aisle, both sides of the dome and even the white house,...
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. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. jon: fox news alert for you now. we are awaiting remarks from president obama. he is pushing his plan to try to avoid the year-end fiscal cliff. this speech comes ahead of a meeting between the president and business leaders later today discussing actions the white house says are aimed at growing the economy and finding a quote, balanced approach to reducing the nation's deficit. let's bring in our panel. mary katharine ham editor-at-large of hot air.com and fox news contributor. peter mirijanian former advisor to the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman campaigns. when the president arrives at the white house to speak, he will have people behind him, ordinary americans who reached out to the white house and want their $2,000 middle class tax cut preserved. republicans are saying this is essentially a campaign stunt, a campaign appearance kind of event of the he won the election. he should get on the business of governing. what do you say? >> well, one quick observation, jon. i think what
. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. jon: fox news alert for you now. we are awaiting remarks from president obama. he is pushing his plan to try to avoid the year-end fiscal cliff. this speech comes ahead of a meeting between the president and business leaders later today discussing actions the white house says are aimed at growing the economy and finding a quote, balanced approach to reducing the nation's deficit. let's bring in...
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then people have an incentive to buy their houses sooner rather than later and so you can give the economy an extra lift. >> that makes the housing industry very nervous and some american, too. but do you agree with what larry summers said? >> absolutely not. i don't think i've ever agreed with larry summers on anything. he was a disaster as an adviser to obama. that's crazy. the one tax break most middle-income families in this country can get unlike everything that's available to the wealthy and the spk lay or thes and everybody else is their mortgage interest deduction. i'm going to fight to keep that. >> congressman peter defazio, thank you very much. great to have you on the program. >> thank you. >> gentlemen, let me go back to this whole idea of the impact beyond the real numbers, just, you know, analysis of what it might mean financially, because there are several also pekts of going off the fiscal cliff. obviously those economic implications. but if this drags on, clarence, into the new year and beyond, could it have serious implications for the president's second-term agenda, sta
then people have an incentive to buy their houses sooner rather than later and so you can give the economy an extra lift. >> that makes the housing industry very nervous and some american, too. but do you agree with what larry summers said? >> absolutely not. i don't think i've ever agreed with larry summers on anything. he was a disaster as an adviser to obama. that's crazy. the one tax break most middle-income families in this country can get unlike everything that's available to...
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we'll tell us how food affects everything from the economy to national security. that's right when cbs "this morning" continues. ,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> hostess will be no more. oh, no! where will i go now for my stomachaches and self-medication? what could have destroyed this beloved american diabetes dispensary? >> the unions really did it in. >> they couldn't afford to stay in business during a long workers strike. >> the union preferred killing the company to accepting what they call was a bad deal. >> you got to imagine gingrich is taking this hard. he is, after all, half sno ball on his father's side. >> we have an update on the story from yesterday. we just learned the united states golf association wants to make long putters illegal. three of the last five grand slam titles were won by golfers using long putters. that rests against the body. the ban would go into effect in 2016. >> that's a big development now. we've also got here world renowned chef jose andres. he's a well-known advocate for better health and nutrition. time magazine just named him one of the
we'll tell us how food affects everything from the economy to national security. that's right when cbs "this morning" continues. ,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> hostess will be no more. oh, no! where will i go now for my stomachaches and self-medication? what could have destroyed this beloved american diabetes dispensary? >> the unions really did it in. >> they couldn't afford to stay in business during a long workers strike. >> the union preferred killing the company to...
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i think in this economy, 15 for 2 days' work, is pretty good to mickey. >> the whole movie is set on the backdrop of the economic breakdown. it's not subtle, the parallels that the film makes between the mob world and the world at large. >> that wasn't accidental. he poses it against the financial crisis, the bank bailout and the '08 election. and it makes for a provocative material. >> so, you have a birthday coming up. >> yeah. in a month. >> and next year's the big one, when you turn -- >> 50. >> 50. have you given any thought to that? >> yeah. i've given a lot of thought to it. >> i just turned 50. so -- >> you become very aware of time. and i think becoming a father, you become -- everything is time allocation for me, too. making sure i spend the time wisely on the things that are important to me. and spending the time with the family. >> best part about it? >> mornings, just getting up. >> if you call one place home, is it new orleans? >> we call them base camps, basically. >> really? >> yeah. >> how many do you have? >> we have a base camp in l.a., because a lot of work out of
i think in this economy, 15 for 2 days' work, is pretty good to mickey. >> the whole movie is set on the backdrop of the economic breakdown. it's not subtle, the parallels that the film makes between the mob world and the world at large. >> that wasn't accidental. he poses it against the financial crisis, the bank bailout and the '08 election. and it makes for a provocative material. >> so, you have a birthday coming up. >> yeah. in a month. >> and next year's the...
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on those at the top 2% and above so that we can achieve balanced deficit reduction and invest in our economy. if they chose education over tax cuts for those at the top, they chose clean energy. so these are -- that's what this election was about. it makes a difference to actually run on something. >> let's talk about the inauguration, what's going to be obviously second term inaugurations are just smaller. they just are. that's just a fact. what's the attempt to make this second inaugural seem different? what will make it stand out? >> well, you know, the ro ses has just started. we're just three weeks from the election -- >> who is running? >> the same people that were involved last time will be involved this time. lots of discussions are taking place. it will be a smaller scale, but we're just about two months out. we have a lot of work it to do 0 but the president is very much looking forward to giving that speech. >> well, the construction is already apparent all over washington. stephanie cutter, nice to see you. >> nice to see you, chuck. >> we will be checking in again, thank you. >>
on those at the top 2% and above so that we can achieve balanced deficit reduction and invest in our economy. if they chose education over tax cuts for those at the top, they chose clean energy. so these are -- that's what this election was about. it makes a difference to actually run on something. >> let's talk about the inauguration, what's going to be obviously second term inaugurations are just smaller. they just are. that's just a fact. what's the attempt to make this second...